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- Back in the early days of this blog, I had a post on Buzzwords Galore and Bandwidth that May Rival Your Station Wagon. The topic was a "hybrid optical and packet network" being deployed by Internet2 in 2006, and in the tail end of the post text I explained the reference to the station wagon part of the post title: When you think you have a really zippy network connection, someone will (should?) bring up an old internet adage which says “Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes.”In the post comments, Walt Crawford asked "How about a 747 full of BluRay discs?" I must have been bored, because I calculated that bandwidth as 37Tb/s, and I even showed my work. Last week an internet citizen going by the name "Steveo" updated the table for an Airbus A38-800F. He (or she) and I arrived at different numbers (Steveo seems to have mistaken cubic feet for cubic meters in the calculation and didn't update the maximum airspeed figure), so perhaps it is time to revisit this topic. (And while we're at it, we'll throw in numbers for Boeing's latest freighter aircraft: the 747-8F.)Boeing 747-400FBoeing 747-8, FreighterAirbus A380-800F (proposed)Cargo capacity of aircraft, in cargo configuration, in cubic metersSource ((The original posting listed 159 as the capacity using a source that is no longer on the web. According to the Boeing site, 159 is the capacity of the lower deck, which doesn't include the 605 cubic meters of capacity on the main deck. Go figure.)) 764Source 857.7Source 1,134Volume of a carton of 200 slim jewel cases (53cm by 26cm by 15.5cm), in cubic meters Source - - - - - - - - 0.021359 - - - - - - - - Number of cartons of slim jewel cases per aircraft35,76940,15653,092Number of slim jewel cases, each with one Blu-ray DVD, per aircraft7,153,8008,031,20010,618,400Data capacity of one Blu-ray DVD, dual layer, in Gigabytes Source - - - - - - - - 50 - - - - - - - - Same, in Gigabits (8 bits per byte) - - - - - - - - 400 - - - - - - - - Data capacity of one aircraft, in the cargo configuration, filled with dual-layer Blu-ray DVDs in slim jewel cases, in gigabits2,851,520,0003,212,480,0004,247,360,000Maximum cruising speed of aircraft, in knotsSource 507Source ((Converted from Mach to knots via Google.)) 559Source (("Maximum Level Speed" from specs converted from mach to knots via Google.)) 589Flight time between New York’s JFK airport and Los Angeles’ LAX airport at maximum cruising, in seconds (("Includes 15 minute bias"))Source 16,200Source 14,760Source 14,040Bandwidth of cargo aircraft filled to capacity with Blu-ray discs in slim jewel cases traveling at maximum rated cruising speed between John F Kennedy Intl airport and Los Angeles Intl airport, in gigabits per second176,637217,648302,519[caption id="attachment_1628" align="alignright" width="150" caption="Boeing 747-400F Main Cargo Deck. How many rectangular boxes can we fit in a round space?"][/caption]As with the first post, this of course assumes a negligible time to load and unload said Boeing 747-400, no airport congestion, a frictionless plane and a perfect spherical earth, along with several other typical assumptions from the world of physics. It also assumes that your can fit rectangular-shaped cartons in a cargo space that is clearly curved while still maximizing space. Check my math and let me know if I made a mistake.Now, by contrast, the latest notice I could find of high-speed data transfer over a network was a mention in December last year. In a press release from Caltech with the title "High Energy Physicists Set New Record for Network Data Transfer" is this paragraph:The focus of the exhibit was the [High Energy Physics] team's record-breaking demonstration of storage-to-storage data transfer over wide area networks from two racks of servers and a network switch-router on the exhibit floor [of SuperComputing 2009 in Portland, Oregon]. The high-energy physics team's demonstration, "Moving Towards Terabit/Sec Transfers of Scientific Datasets: The LHC Challenge," achieved a bidirectional peak throughput of 119 gigabits per second (Gbps) and a data flow of more than 110 Gbps that could be sustained indefinitely among clusters of servers on the show floor and at Caltech, Michigan, San Diego, Florida, Fermilab, Brookhaven, CERN, Brazil, Korea, and Estonia.So, 110 Gbps from a network and 217,648 Gbps from a Boeing 747-8 Freighter. (We're not counting yet the capacity of the theoretical Airbus A380-800F.) Only three orders of magnitude before the proverbial station wagon full of tapes is put to rest.Updates10-Jun-2010. If you have read this far, be sure to check out "Bandwidth of Large Airplanes, Take 2" by Walt Crawford. He takes on the points of 100-disc spindles, 2TB hard drives, and whether weight is a limiting factor in this scheme. Thanks, Walt!The text was modified to remove a link to http://www.aerospace-technology.com/projects/airbus_a380/specs.html on December 4th, 2012.
- 2010-06-09T01:40:55+00:00
- 2018-01-15T20:47:28+00:00
Bandwidth of Large Airplanes
Back in the early days of this blog, I had a post on Buzzwords Galore and Bandwidth that May Rival Your Station Wagon. The topic was a "hybrid optical and packet network" being deployed by Internet2 in 2006, and in the tail end of the post text I explained the reference to the station wagon part of the post title:
When you think you have a really zippy network connection, someone will (should?) bring up an old internet adage which says “Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes.”
In the post comments, Walt Crawford asked "How about a 747 full of BluRay discs?" I must have been bored, because I calculated that bandwidth as 37Tb/s, and I even showed my work. Last week an internet citizen going by the name "Steveo" updated the table for an Airbus A38-800F. He (or she) and I arrived at different numbers (Steveo seems to have mistaken cubic feet for cubic meters in the calculation and didn't update the maximum airspeed figure), so perhaps it is time to revisit this topic. (And while we're at it, we'll throw in numbers for Boeing's latest freighter aircraft: the 747-8F.)
| Boeing 747-400F | Boeing 747-8, Freighter | Airbus A380-800F (proposed) | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Cargo capacity of aircraft, in cargo configuration, in cubic meters | Source ((The original posting listed 159 as the capacity using a source that is no longer on the web. According to the Boeing site, 159 is the capacity of the lower deck, which doesn't include the 605 cubic meters of capacity on the main deck. Go figure.)) 764 | Source 857.7 | Source 1,134 |
| Volume of a carton of 200 slim jewel cases (53cm by 26cm by 15.5cm), in cubic meters Source | - - - - - - - - 0.021359 - - - - - - - - | ||
| Number of cartons of slim jewel cases per aircraft | 35,769 | 40,156 | 53,092 |
| Number of slim jewel cases, each with one Blu-ray DVD, per aircraft | 7,153,800 | 8,031,200 | 10,618,400 |
| Data capacity of one Blu-ray DVD, dual layer, in Gigabytes Source | - - - - - - - - 50 - - - - - - - - | ||
| Same, in Gigabits (8 bits per byte) | - - - - - - - - 400 - - - - - - - - | ||
| Data capacity of one aircraft, in the cargo configuration, filled with dual-layer Blu-ray DVDs in slim jewel cases, in gigabits | 2,851,520,000 | 3,212,480,000 | 4,247,360,000 |
| Maximum cruising speed of aircraft, in knots | Source 507 | Source ((Converted from Mach to knots via Google.)) 559 | Source (("Maximum Level Speed" from specs converted from mach to knots via Google.)) 589 |
| Flight time between New York’s JFK airport and Los Angeles’ LAX airport at maximum cruising, in seconds (("Includes 15 minute bias")) | Source 16,200 | Source 14,760 | Source 14,040 |
| Bandwidth of cargo aircraft filled to capacity with Blu-ray discs in slim jewel cases traveling at maximum rated cruising speed between John F Kennedy Intl airport and Los Angeles Intl airport, in gigabits per second | 176,637 | 217,648 | 302,519 |
[caption id="attachment_1628" align="alignright" width="150" caption="Boeing 747-400F Main Cargo Deck. How many rectangular boxes can we fit in a round space?"]
[/caption]As with the first post, this of course assumes a negligible time to load and unload said Boeing 747-400, no airport congestion, a frictionless plane and a perfect spherical earth, along with several other typical assumptions from the world of physics. It also assumes that your can fit rectangular-shaped cartons in a cargo space that is clearly curved while still maximizing space. Check my math and let me know if I made a mistake.
Now, by contrast, the latest notice I could find of high-speed data transfer over a network was a mention in December last year. In a press release from Caltech with the title "High Energy Physicists Set New Record for Network Data Transfer" is this paragraph:
The focus of the exhibit was the [High Energy Physics] team's record-breaking demonstration of storage-to-storage data transfer over wide area networks from two racks of servers and a network switch-router on the exhibit floor [of SuperComputing 2009 in Portland, Oregon]. The high-energy physics team's demonstration, "Moving Towards Terabit/Sec Transfers of Scientific Datasets: The LHC Challenge," achieved a bidirectional peak throughput of 119 gigabits per second (Gbps) and a data flow of more than 110 Gbps that could be sustained indefinitely among clusters of servers on the show floor and at Caltech, Michigan, San Diego, Florida, Fermilab, Brookhaven, CERN, Brazil, Korea, and Estonia.
So, 110 Gbps from a network and 217,648 Gbps from a Boeing 747-8 Freighter. (We're not counting yet the capacity of the theoretical Airbus A380-800F.) Only three orders of magnitude before the proverbial station wagon full of tapes is put to rest.
Updates
10-Jun-2010. If you have read this far, be sure to check out "Bandwidth of Large Airplanes, Take 2" by Walt Crawford. He takes on the points of 100-disc spindles, 2TB hard drives, and whether weight is a limiting factor in this scheme. Thanks, Walt!
The text was modified to remove a link to http://www.aerospace-technology.com/projects/airbus_a380/specs.html on December 4th, 2012.
