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		<title>By: OCLC’s WorldCat Local “Quick Start” - Business Exchange</title>
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		<dc:creator>OCLC’s WorldCat Local “Quick Start” - Business Exchange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 07:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: HotStuff 2.0 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Word of the Day: &#8220;vufind&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>HotStuff 2.0 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Word of the Day: &#8220;vufind&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 02:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] WorldCat Local &#8220;Quick Start&#8221; [web link]Disruptive Library Technology Jester (29/Apr/2009)&#8220;&#8230;out there like blacklight vufind [...]</description>
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		<title>By: OCLC library management services &#171; Bibliographic Wilderness</title>
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		<dc:creator>OCLC library management services &#171; Bibliographic Wilderness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 01:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] April 29, 2009 Posted by jrochkind in General.  trackback  Thoughts provoked by Peter Murray&#8217;s excellent untangling of what&#8217;s going on with OCLC&#8217;s new [...]</description>
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		<title>By: the Jester</title>
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		<dc:creator>the Jester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 01:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I could believe that they are building an interoperable suite of tools where they don&#039;t insist that OCLC be at the center of the universe.  Meaning:  if my institution has a SOA substrate in place for enterprise applications, be it &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oracle.com/technologies/soa/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Oracle&#039;s&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www-01.ibm.com/software/solutions/soa/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;IBM&#039;s&lt;/a&gt;, or &lt;a href=&quot;http://rice.kuali.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kuali Rice&lt;/a&gt;, I want to be able to bridge in the OCLC services where appropriate.   What has come out so far is a whole bunch of marketing speak which, as I speculated, is intended to freeze the marketplace.

What we&#039;re left with, though, is parsing OCLC&#039;s words in light of past practices and current events.  From that perspective, I think I&#039;m in the cautiously accepting camp as well.  At the very least, I&#039;m trying to be mindful of my biases with regards to the Record Use policy debate when I&#039;m reading and thinking about this new information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could believe that they are building an interoperable suite of tools where they don&#8217;t insist that OCLC be at the center of the universe.  Meaning:  if my institution has a SOA substrate in place for enterprise applications, be it <a href="http://www.oracle.com/technologies/soa/index.html" rel="nofollow">Oracle&#8217;s</a>, <a href="http://www-01.ibm.com/software/solutions/soa/" rel="nofollow">IBM&#8217;s</a>, or <a href="http://rice.kuali.org/" rel="nofollow">Kuali Rice</a>, I want to be able to bridge in the OCLC services where appropriate.   What has come out so far is a whole bunch of marketing speak which, as I speculated, is intended to freeze the marketplace.</p>
<p>What we&#8217;re left with, though, is parsing OCLC&#8217;s words in light of past practices and current events.  From that perspective, I think I&#8217;m in the cautiously accepting camp as well.  At the very least, I&#8217;m trying to be mindful of my biases with regards to the Record Use policy debate when I&#8217;m reading and thinking about this new information.</p>
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		<title>By: the Jester</title>
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		<dc:creator>the Jester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think you&#039;re missing anything, Jonathan -- the phrase isn&#039;t defined in any of the documentation I&#039;ve seen.  For some reason, for me at least, the term has meaning.  I think it I may have had some off-the-record conversations with folks at OCLC where I picked up the nuances.

To me &quot;web-scale&quot; is a combination of having a system that operates at the extreme ends of &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.msdn.com/jevdemon/archive/2007/10/24/internet-scale-computing.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;internet scale&lt;/a&gt; (think: FriendFeed, Twitter, Library Thing, Delicious, etc., and not so much LC&#039;s catalog...or anybody&#039;s OPAC for that matter) combined with the network effect of user-generated content feedback loops (think again: FriendFeed, Library Thing, etc.).  Interestingly, one of the top hits in a Google search on the term is to a &lt;a href=&quot;http://orweblog.oclc.org/archives/001238.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;January 2007 blog post by Lorcan Dempsey&lt;/a&gt;, but there are other uses of the phrase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re missing anything, Jonathan &#8212; the phrase isn&#8217;t defined in any of the documentation I&#8217;ve seen.  For some reason, for me at least, the term has meaning.  I think it I may have had some off-the-record conversations with folks at OCLC where I picked up the nuances.</p>
<p>To me &#8220;web-scale&#8221; is a combination of having a system that operates at the extreme ends of <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/jevdemon/archive/2007/10/24/internet-scale-computing.aspx" rel="nofollow">internet scale</a> (think: FriendFeed, Twitter, Library Thing, Delicious, etc., and not so much LC&#8217;s catalog&#8230;or anybody&#8217;s OPAC for that matter) combined with the network effect of user-generated content feedback loops (think again: FriendFeed, Library Thing, etc.).  Interestingly, one of the top hits in a Google search on the term is to a <a href="http://orweblog.oclc.org/archives/001238.html" rel="nofollow">January 2007 blog post by Lorcan Dempsey</a>, but there are other uses of the phrase.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Rochkind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Rochkind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess they do actually say a bit: 

&quot;is distinguished by the cooperative “network effect” of all libraries using the same..&quot;

ALL libraries? Like, every library everywhere?  

That&#039;s not going to happen, even if it were desirable (which I don&#039;t think it is, to anyone but OCLC; the monopolistic aspirations are rather laid bare there, aren&#039;t they?)

I&#039;d be a lot more comfortable if they explained how the WMS was going to be inter-operable such that you could get these benefits even before/without their rather frightening vision of 100% market penetration is realized. 

You mention:

“A Service-Oriented Architecture (SOA) for interoperability with local environments and 3rd party business process systems (e.g., financial management, HR systems, and course management)” — one of the hallmarks of the OLE project.)&quot;

Okay, that&#039;s inter-operability, that&#039;s the POINT of this being a focus of the hallmarks of the OLE project, to allow you to mix and match components without lock-in. 

So do they mean it (and what does it mean if they mean it), or is this just more buzzwords being thrown around?

I need fewer buzzwords, and more transparent sharing of strategy. Some of us are a bit cautious of accepting OCLC&#039;s interest in inter-operating well with other players, rather than try to encourage lock-in. From one perspective, encouraging lock-in where you can&#039;t afford NOT to use all these services from OCLC -- is really the underlying force behind all this new stuff. 

That said, we all know our current ILS type systems are just awful. What they are describing is certainly a better way. I want my choice of better ways, and I want to mix and match the best components from various better way ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess they do actually say a bit: </p>
<p>&#8220;is distinguished by the cooperative “network effect” of all libraries using the same..&#8221;</p>
<p>ALL libraries? Like, every library everywhere?  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s not going to happen, even if it were desirable (which I don&#8217;t think it is, to anyone but OCLC; the monopolistic aspirations are rather laid bare there, aren&#8217;t they?)</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be a lot more comfortable if they explained how the WMS was going to be inter-operable such that you could get these benefits even before/without their rather frightening vision of 100% market penetration is realized. </p>
<p>You mention:</p>
<p>“A Service-Oriented Architecture (SOA) for interoperability with local environments and 3rd party business process systems (e.g., financial management, HR systems, and course management)” — one of the hallmarks of the OLE project.)&#8221;</p>
<p>Okay, that&#8217;s inter-operability, that&#8217;s the POINT of this being a focus of the hallmarks of the OLE project, to allow you to mix and match components without lock-in. </p>
<p>So do they mean it (and what does it mean if they mean it), or is this just more buzzwords being thrown around?</p>
<p>I need fewer buzzwords, and more transparent sharing of strategy. Some of us are a bit cautious of accepting OCLC&#8217;s interest in inter-operating well with other players, rather than try to encourage lock-in. From one perspective, encouraging lock-in where you can&#8217;t afford NOT to use all these services from OCLC &#8212; is really the underlying force behind all this new stuff. </p>
<p>That said, we all know our current ILS type systems are just awful. What they are describing is certainly a better way. I want my choice of better ways, and I want to mix and match the best components from various better way ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Rochkind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Rochkind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does &quot;web-scale&quot; in &quot;web-scale integrated library system components&quot; etc actually mean anything, or is it just a marketting buzz word?

It&#039;s odd to me that OCLC has seized on this phrase &quot;web-scale&quot; to describe their offerings (indeed in some places they have no name BUT for &quot;web scale&quot;), but don&#039;t feel it necessary to explain what that phrase means to them. It&#039;s not a commonly understood phrase I&#039;m just missing out on, is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does &#8220;web-scale&#8221; in &#8220;web-scale integrated library system components&#8221; etc actually mean anything, or is it just a marketting buzz word?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s odd to me that OCLC has seized on this phrase &#8220;web-scale&#8221; to describe their offerings (indeed in some places they have no name BUT for &#8220;web scale&#8221;), but don&#8217;t feel it necessary to explain what that phrase means to them. It&#8217;s not a commonly understood phrase I&#8217;m just missing out on, is it?</p>
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